BLOGDIAL on ID cards

There have been many posts on the subject of ID cards made on BLOGDIAL, from before the time that there was even a proposal for a UK ID card.

BLOGDIAL is totally opposed to ID cards as a matter of principle. They are a hideous, dehumanising mechanism of state control, and no enlightened country deploys them. These are posts from the pre Word Press incarnation of BLOGDIAL.

Read on…

2001

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…Like I said before, cameras and ID cards will do nothing to stop people carrying out these acts. One of these “terrorists” actually had “International Terrorist” as his occupation on his official identity card. Some of the pilots…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2001_09_16_blarchive.html

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ID Card FAQ An ID card, by definition, is a form of internal passport. Virtually all ID cards worldwide develop a broader usage over time, than was originally envisioned for them. This development of new and unintended purposes is…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2001_09_23_blarchive.html

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ID cards and objected to “proposals to intercept every email, bank transaction and mobile phone call” in its pro-civil liberties editorial, then handed out an olive branch to the Home Secretary. “There are … important…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2001_09_30_blarchive.html

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…Update: 10/18 01:48 GMT by M: Hah! btempleton writes: “Here is a prototype of Larry Ellison’s new national ID card.” Someone Clever Said: This has a way of being inevitable unless you, the people, fight like grim death against it….
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2001_10_14_blarchive.html

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…Some Personal Views from Around the World of ID Cards. Read it and weep. from Privacy International In 1994, in an attempt to discover the problems caused by ID cards, Privacy International compiled a survey containing reports from…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2001_10_21_blarchive.html

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…My way of thinking and behaving protects those people in other countries who want to do national service, carry ID cards, be numbered, sell thier organs, pray to statues, not pray to statues. whatever. You are free to do what you…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2001_12_16_blarchive.html

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…One MP called for the mandatory issuing of ID cards for all UK citizens, as well as “mandatory genetic profiling of all UK citizens”, “so that we can follow these people where ever they go, from safe house to safehouse”. Yet another…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2001_09_09_blarchive.html

2002

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…be an easy one, but so many security initiatives are presented without any clear statement of the problem. National ID cards are a purported solution without any clear problem. Increased net surveillance has been presented as a…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2002_06_09_blarchive.html

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…The Danish CPR system was put in place in the seventies, and the issue of IDcards has been up countless times in the time since. Every time, it has been debated out and dropped, the winning argument mostly being “what would we need…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2002_08_04_blarchive.html

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…Singapore where to sign up for a free internet account whilst I was out there I needed to use ‘my’ ID Card #. Obviously I don’t have an ID card, so I just used my girlfriend’s as she is a Singapore resident. But she is a French…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2002_09_29_blarchive.html

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…Caplan stands firm against ID cards By JEFF SALLOT Monday, November 18, 2002 OTTAWA — Canadians don’t need national identification cards, Revenue Minister Elinor Caplan says, flatly rejecting an idea being floated by one of her…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2002_11_17_blarchive.html

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…I dont have a problem with the Belgians and thier ID card which must be carried by law whenever you leave your house. I dont have a problem with the Danes, who have a state issued number, assigned at birth. What I DO have a big…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2002_08_04_blarchive.html

2003

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…Into the final days of the government’s Great ID Card Consultation – and the Home Office couldn’t be more excited. Lord Falconer continues to tell everyone who’ll listen that over 1500 people have responded, and the majority of…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2003_01_05_blarchive.html

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…to stop our Chinese suspect from attending is to exclude him from the UK completely. The alternative, of demanding ID cards from all students as they turn up for lectures, would involve an unacceptable change in the open culture…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2003_01_12_blarchive.html

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…A horrible story about Spanish ID Cards posted by Irdial Discs , 11:34 PM Þ Apple DOS was a painful, painful thing. Actually, everything on the Apple II was pretty brutal. The last time I used one of those machines was in 94 or…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2003_01_26_blarchive.html

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ID cards?” musings last month, when they were enthusiastically backing a one-day conference on the subject of “what the next steps should be towards the possible implementation of an Entitlement Card”. Schlumberger also…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2003_02_02_blarchive.html

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…Thats another example of why ID cards and centralized databases using unique identifiers are a very bad idea. And of course, the article meant “Brute Force”. Info World posted by Irdial Discs , 9:06 AM Þ Thursday, March 06, 2003…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2003_03_02_blarchive.html

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…>>Scots ID card plan gets green light >> >>First Minister Jack McConnell is to place the plan at the heart of >>Labour痴 Scottish Parliament election campaign, risking the wrath >>of civil liberties campaigners and his Liberal…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2003_03_23_blarchive.html

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…the Home Office didn’t take this route to introduce ID cards quietly. Perhaps they’ve now realised their previous error… ‘Smart’ passports to be introduced in 2005 By Matthew Beard The Independent, 28/4/2003 Plans are in the…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2003_04_27_blarchive.html

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…Everyone is against ID cards. They wont solve the problem of fraud. They wont solve the problem of terrorism. The consultations have all been overwhelmingly negative. David Blunkett is a fool, a rabid, out of touch control addict,…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2003_05_18_blarchive.html

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…The United States, which does not require its citizens to carry ID cards, has for years used biometric “crossing cards” to help police its border with Mexico. . U.S. Embassies and consulates in Mexico have issued 6 million such…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2003_06_22_blarchive.html

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…He was the last person prosecuted in Britain for refusing to produce his wartime ID card and he spearheaded a public campaign that led to their abolition 50 years ago. Next week, David Blunkett will seek to revive the idea. What…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2003_07_06_blarchive.html

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…When the British fought off ID cards By Ryan Dilley BBC News Online Compulsory ID cards are nothing new in the UK. They were issued to all British civilians during World War II. That is until one ordinary man said no. Clarence…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2003_09_21_blarchive.html

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…The Cabinet has decided to put off a decision on whether compulsory ID cards should be introduced until later this decade. rejoice, but not too much But it said a voluntary scheme could be brought in earlier. But we all know that…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2003_11_02_blarchive.html

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…into telling people exactly why they should worry. It’s hard to grasp real freedom when most believe that compulsory ID cards are not a limit on that freedom. *Reason: 1. [n] the capacity for rational thought or inference or…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2003_11_09_blarchive.html

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…Support for national ID cards falls sharply By Nigel Morris, Home Affairs Correspondent 19 November 2003 Public support for national identity cards has dropped sharply in the past two years, despite the enthusiastic support of David…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2003_11_16_blarchive.html

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…my guess is he thinks that this will provide a spurious ‘requirement’ for his ID cards as well. No doubt tracking is a feature he would love to see in ID cards. Sometimes I wonder if his cleaner goes into his office in the evening &…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2003_11_23_blarchive.html

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…One of the ironies of this current incarnation of the ID card debate is that one of the strongest proponents (David Blunkett) and one of the strongest opponents (Simon Davies, of Privacy International) both have ocular problems that…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2003_12_07_blarchive.html

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…me at the airport and sent me back to where I flew from, but he was reasonable. I was lucky that time. If compulsory ID cards are rolled out in the UK, we will have to put up with this “I was lucky/unlucky” chatter forevermore. This…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2003_11_30_blarchive.html

2004

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…First, we should adopt a national ID card. Surprisingly, this is anathema to many conservatives. If the right is willing to imprison people indefinitely and send young people off to die in Iraq in the name of security, then why is…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_03_14_blarchive.html

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…specifically about warmongering, compulsory vaccinating, or vaccinating without proper choice (MMR), compulsory ID cards…you get the picture; anything where a false need is created that can be catered for by a contractor….
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_07_18_blarchive.html

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…British businesses will face an extra layer of red tape when ID cards are introduced, according to the boss of the government’s own regulation watchdog. David Arculus, chairman of the Better Regulation Task Force (BRTF), believes…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_11_28_blarchive.html

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Id Cards Could Protect Immigrants – Blunkett By Jon Smith, Political Editor, PA News National ID cards could protect immigrant workers such as the Chinese cockle pickers who died off Morecambe Bay from gangmasters, Home Secretary…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_02_08_blarchive.html

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…My objection to the national ID card, at least for the purposes of this essay, is much simpler. It won’t work. It won’t make us more secure. […] It doesn’t really matter how well an ID card works when used by the hundreds of…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_04_11_blarchive.html

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…In other news, POCLAD. And ID cards have everything to do with corporations. posted by Barrie James Sutcliffe , 7:39 AM Þ And this is for you, Alison. Aw heck, this is for everyone! This is not my garden, but it inspires me so….
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_03_21_blarchive.html

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…americans normally would not stand for this. They have rejected ID cards regularly, rightly, as being a terrible system whose only value is a tool to abuse human rights. Asking them to be fingerprinted just to travel will make them…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_01_04_blarchive.html

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…So if you don’t want ID cards you don’t want big government? [well actually I don’t but it isn’t a causal relationship] and therefore you want to destroy the health service??? I’m so very very sorry, brand my forehead and take me to…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_01_11_blarchive.html

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…1.3 billion Chinese citizens to get new ID cards By INQUIRER staff: Wednesday 28 January 2004, 08:53 CHINA IS TO arm its lucky lucky 1.3 billion citizens with ID cards over the next five years, but some will get their new chipped up…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_01_25_blarchive.html

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…court cases recently were there to sow the seeds of doubt about the DPA so people would be more willing to accept ID cards / Biometric profiling and less strict controls on who gets to know what? posted by alex tea , 2:37 PM Þ…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_02_01_blarchive.html

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…- all ID cards should also contain biometric data – this will enable the wholesale surveillance of all movement not just into the EU but within the EU too […] I am not bullshitting. This is for real. An appalling nightmare made…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_02_22_blarchive.html

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…Consider also the possible impact of a future ID card system on the most recent waves of arrests. We can reasonably presume that the security services had a fair idea of the identity of most of the luckless 500 before they pulled…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_03_28_blarchive.html

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…to enjoy our traditional freedoms, we may have to accept ID cards, just as most employees have to show photo passes to enter their places of work… We will never wholly defeat terrorism. The challenge is to make everyday life…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_04_04_blarchive.html

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…How could you possibly tolerate that? The Australians didnt tolerate it:Resisting ID Cards (Victory Down Under!) In 1987 the Australians managed to stop their government from introducing a national identify card system. Massive…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_04_18_blarchive.html

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…Fingerprints, ID cards, congestion charge, where are the egg thieves??? Some funny stuff about John Coltrane in there too. posted by captain davros , 2:17 PM Þ posted by Alun Kirby , 2:17 PM Þ That photo of the Iraqi…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_04_25_blarchive.html

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…readers to be installed in Libraries. Imagine that you get mugged in the street, they steal your house keys and your ID card. They go to the nearest terminal, read your address and then go straight to your house and rob you. That is…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_05_02_blarchive.html

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…DHS and UK ID card biometric vendor in false ID lawsuit By John Lettice Published Tuesday 11th May 2004 12:50 GMT At San Jose Superior Court today (11 May) biometrics company Identix will seek to have a product liability and slander…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_05_09_blarchive.html

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…against ID cards the survey conducted by online research firm YouGov found. One million would be prepared to go to prison rather than register for a card. […] BBC News posted by Irdial Discs , 12:26 PM Þ ID card backlash: is…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_05_16_blarchive.html

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…”Let’s just tell Blunkett we’ve got ID cards. He’ll never know” In other news, Chirac says something sensible, while Bush pisses in the wind. …he gently decried George Bush’s plan to reform Arab states with free elections,…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_06_06_blarchive.html

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…Unrelated interconnectedness, could the BBCs lukewarm reporting of the ID card issue have anything to do with Accenture being the joint front runner (with Siemens) for its proposed outsourced IT subcontract? posted by meau meau ,…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_06_13_blarchive.html

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…Japanese children will soon be taking ID cards equipped with the latest tracking technology to school. Alarmed at a spate of violent crimes involving children, a school in western Japan will next month introduce radio frequency…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_07_11_blarchive.html

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…called the Citizen Information Project, and the ID cards database. MPs say there is no coordination here, but also warn against a government database of all information. But the ID card database should be comprehensive enough to…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_07_25_blarchive.html

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…CBI backs ‘flawed’ ID card scheme CBI deputy director-general John Cridland said it shared government concern that having no way to prove identity made the UK more vulnerable to criminals and terrorists. He said: “ID cards could…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_08_08_blarchive.html

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…gigantic computer in Washington, and passed on to David Blunkett in due course to be incorporated in his exciting new ID card. “I’m glad to say, your application has been successful,” the woman told me after inspecting my…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_08_15_blarchive.html

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…Yet another example of why an ID card must be absolutely refused. If a police man can be corrupted like this, anyone can be spied upon or smeard or blackmailed or framed for a small sum of money. The police will have access to…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_09_05_blarchive.html

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…if they gather together an identical amount of support across the nation, how are they going to guarantee that the ID card fiasco is not going to be forced upon the people of Britiain? What plans do they have to ensure that there is…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_09_19_blarchive.html

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…The government will combine the e-borders scheme with biometric ID cards to track individuals entering the UK. Anti-terror Initially the system will target six million passengers a year travelling on a number of…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_09_26_blarchive.html

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…legislation that will allow implementation of the scheme and include provision for a rolling programme to issue ID cards along with passport renewals […] The Register Well we knew that what the government meant by voluntary was a…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_10_10_blarchive.html

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…Home Office said information stored on a passport would be very different to biometrics being considered for national ID cards that Home Secretary David Blunkett is keen to see introduced. An out and out lie – New passports (&…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_10_17_blarchive.html

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…There is almost nothing positive in the consultation document. None of the major groups consulted understand why ID cards are required or how they will reduce terrorism and crime. Only the Police Federation appear strongly in…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_10_24_blarchive.html

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…When is an ID card not an ID card? So it is clear now that the so-called ID card is proposed to to be automatically issued with a new passport, which will not be called an ID card, but: 1. You would need to submit NIR information…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_10_31_blarchive.html

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…unprincipled, stupid and are very much the cause of the problem, because if they refused to comply with a national ID card scheme, ANY scheme, it would die instantly. The ones I despise the most are the inured from birth saying, “It…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_11_14_blarchive.html

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ID card business plan will not be made public The government has ruled out publishing the business case for its £3.1bn ID card programme on the grounds of commercial confidentiality, despite questions over the scheme’s value for…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_11_21_blarchive.html

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…and then an ID card, which will only allow them to travel around their homes or to nearby aid centers, which are now being built. The Marines will be authorized to use deadly force against those breaking the rules.” Get an ID card…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_12_05_blarchive.html

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…If you value your freedom, reject this sinister ID card We should be afraid of future governments, whose nature we can’t predict Henry Porter Friday December 17, 2004 The Guardian Where are the demonstrations demanding…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_12_12_blarchive.html

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ID cards will, of course, render infidelity a thing of the past, just after they solve the world energy crisis and bring peace to the middle East. posted by Alun Kirby , 4:09 PM Þ […] TV is really just a tool to keep the…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_12_19_blarchive.html

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…Even if you are reqired to carry ID before you leave your house, like the Belgians, people fitting the profile will be rotinely stopped for checks, multiple times, on a daily basis. Populations have rioted because of this sort of…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_01_18_blarchive.html

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…No. The Belgians, French, Germans et al all have ID cards and would not have brought in the European Convention on Human Rights unaltered if it destroyed the legal basis for their ID card systems. If not, it was a huge error that…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_03_28_blarchive.html

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…The Belgians have no problem with carrying an ID card. The French see nothing wrong in being guilty until proven innocent, and so on and so on. This fundamental mismatch means that a body that oversees all of these disperate groups…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2004_06_06_blarchive.html

2005

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…City workers first to get hi-tech ID cards By Sam Lyon, Evening Standard Britain’s first hi-tech identity cards are being issued to London workers today, the Evening Standard can reveal. The cards, containing details of…
http://www.irdial.com/blogger.html

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…But opponents of the bill say it would create a national ID card and a de facto national database — a concept that Congress rejected when it was first proposed several years ago. The act would force states to produce standardized,…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2005_05_08_blarchive.html

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…to sign an $82 billion military spending bill soon that will, in part, create electronically readable federal ID cards for Americans. The House of Representatives overwhelmingly approved the package–which includes the Real ID…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2005_05_01_blarchive.html

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…And here is another example from something that is not a fait accompli; “ID cards: a bullwark against terrorists, illeglal immigrants and fraud, or a pointless excersise in burocracy and an infringement of our civil liberties?”. Now…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2005_04_17_blarchive.html

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…been used as some sort of pretext for ‘needing’ ID cards to prevent terrorism: 1. The convicted person was a failed asylum seeker – he was already ‘in the system’, if he had been given an ID card he would still be a failed asylum…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2005_04_10_blarchive.html

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…by area, with more and more of a patient’s personal medical record added to it. It will be far more intrusive than an ID card. And hundreds of thousands of NHS employees will have access to it. Wave bye bye to patient…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2005_01_09_blarchive.html

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…According to the Toady Programme, Andrew Marr (reporter) reckons Labour will actively campaign for ID Cards if(!) the current Bill runs out of time to be put into law. As the Great Chimp said “Bring it on”. Anything to expose the…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2005_03_20_blarchive.html

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…It is still being spun/intimated that the Government are ‘shelving’ their ID Card Bill: From the Labour party website: The Pledge Card: Friday 11 February 2005 The Prime Minister today unveiled Labour’s six pledges that ensure a…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2005_03_13_blarchive.html

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…Oh and remember that if ID cards are actually forced upon us these stop and searches WILL be logged and referenced for the rest of your life and death. – that was breathtaking. You should try Sebald’s writing without my elisions!…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2005_02_27_blarchive.html

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…The government spent public money on opinion polls about ID cards. This is unconstitutional. We know this. Anyway, Lib Dem home affairs spokesman Mark Oaten found out that the objective of the 3 polls were “to investigate…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2005_02_13_blarchive.html

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…all relevant information regarding individuals name, father/ husbands name, address, date of birth, new and old ID card number, family registration number, permanent and present addresses, mark of identification, signature, thumb…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2005_01_02_blarchive.html

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…to use the new power by fining dozens of citizens for not being able to present a valid passport, drivers license or ID card. Most citizens were given double fines, for example for riding on a bicycle without proper illlumination,…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2005_01_16_blarchive.html

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…have to be to give the general public concerns about ‘function creep’ ? Not very, certainly not as badly as the ID card bill. Neither charging nor properly releasing these people is another CLUNK from the automatic. I think it might…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2005_01_23_blarchive.html

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…being tied to the owner of the card, since it is ubitquitous, issued by the government and cumpulsory: your National ID Card. This is going to happen again and again, in convoluted scenarios that we cannot even begin to conjure up,…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2005_01_30_blarchive.html

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…yesterday, but the ID cards (etc.) Bill had itsthird (final) reading in the Commons yesterday. Spyblog has a commentary. The Lesser Spotted Home Secretary (cluncus clunc) managed to repeat the main lies about NIR, Id cards etc,…
http://irdial.com/blogger/archive/2005_02_06_blarchive.html

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